Leadership Rounds with Dr. Reena Pande
Episode 7: Dana Udall – Leading with Intention: Authenticity, Culture, and Clinical Leadership in the Health Tech Era
Psychologist-turned-operator Dana Udall (CCO, Nourish) joins Oxeon’s Dr. Reena Pande to demystify how clinician leaders scale distributed care, align clinical quality with business outcomes, and bring an intentional, ACT-informed leadership style to cross-functional teams. She also urges clinicians to help inform and govern the next wave of AI-enabled care delivery.
Key Topics & Takeaways
- From practice to platform: A packed waiting room revealed the limits of 1:1 care and pushed Dana toward scalable, data-driven models (Ginger/Headspace → Included Health → Nourish).
- Intentional > “pure authentic”: Drawing on Acceptance & Commitment Therapy (ACT), Dana favors intentional responses over impulsive “authenticity,” fostering relationships while advancing goals.
- Operating at scale in distributed telehealth:
- Design intentional touch points from recruiting to QA.
- Build data infrastructure to see quality and act early.
- Treat culture (leader vulnerability, whole-self norms) as a competitive moat.
- Break clinical silos with the “first-team” mindset: Clinical execs must speak Product, Commercial, Finance and be healthcare executives who happen to be clinicians.
- Personal story, public leadership: In sharing her eating-disorder recovery, Dana aimed to reduce shame and inform her work at the mental–physical health intersection (e.g., food relationship + metabolic goals).
- Career navigation for clinician leaders:
- “Always take the call.” Have many conversations with companies, founders, VCs.
- Evaluate mission integrity, leadership chemistry, true clinical quality, traction/runway, and your stage/risk tolerance.
- The future of AI in care delivery: Beyond scribes, AI will influence treatment decisions. Clinicians, ethicists, and legal partners must co-design guardrails to keep patient safety central.
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